# Using KongIngress without an Ingress resource
**URL:** https://discuss.konghq.com/t/using-kongingress-without-an-ingress-resource/9770
**Category:** Questions
**Tags:** kubernetes
**Created:** [February 11, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://discuss.konghq.com/t/using-kongingress-without-an-ingress-resource/9770 "2022-02-11T01:32:01Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@KONGBISON](https://discuss.konghq.com/u/KONGBISON)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://discuss.konghq.com/t/using-kongingress-without-an-ingress-resource/9770/1 "2022-02-11T01:32:01Z")
By looking at this the diagram on this [page](https://docs.konghq.com/kubernetes-ingress-controller/1.3.x/concepts/custom-resources/#:~:text=The%20Ingress%20resource,can%20be%20modified.), it seems we can use KongIngress without an ingress resource by adding to a Service directly. However, it contradicts with what has been described in the KongIngress overview section.
Can someone confirm if we can use a standalone KongIngress without an Ingress resource?
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### Author:  [@fomm](https://discuss.konghq.com/u/fomm)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://discuss.konghq.com/t/using-kongingress-without-an-ingress-resource/9770/2 "2022-02-11T02:15:02Z")
From my understanding you can put a `kongingress` resource on a service object BUT this service will not be detected by KIC if you don’t have an ingress object pointing to it.
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### Author:  [@traines](https://discuss.konghq.com/u/traines)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://discuss.konghq.com/t/using-kongingress-without-an-ingress-resource/9770/3 "2022-02-14T23:21:08Z")
@fomm is correct.
KongIngress is unfortunately poorly-named. It doesn’t do anything similar to a standard Ingress and only serves to store additional configuration–KongConfiguration would maybe be a better name, but we can’t easily change it at this point.