# DB-less for core entities and database for plugins

**URL:** <https://discuss.konghq.com/t/db-less-for-core-entities-and-database-for-plugins/3251>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [April 10, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://discuss.konghq.com/t/db-less-for-core-entities-and-database-for-plugins/3251 "2019-04-10T16:08:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![flowdopip](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discuss.konghq.com/flowdopip/32/1704_2.png) [@flowdopip](https://discuss.konghq.com/u/flowdopip)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://discuss.konghq.com/t/db-less-for-core-entities-and-database-for-plugins/3251/1 "2019-04-10T16:08:51Z")

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hi,

There´s any evolution in mind for plugins like rate-limit that needs cluster, (cassandra) as a database with kong database=off.

Make sense do a custom plugin for this or could be a feature request to kong community?

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**Author:** ![p0pr0ck5](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex036/user_avatar/discuss.konghq.com/p0pr0ck5/32/987_2.png) [@p0pr0ck5](https://discuss.konghq.com/u/p0pr0ck5)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://discuss.konghq.com/t/db-less-for-core-entities-and-database-for-plugins/3251/2 "2019-05-06T15:48:55Z")

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Hi,

For the rate-limiting plugin in particular, it’s possible to use either memory or a Redis cluster to hold the rate limiting counters, so the database is not strictly necessary for this plugin.